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# RE: no room for vot pos in 1-14-13 - cal size says 79k

- To: <bugtrack@dieboldes.com>
- Subject: RE: no room for vot pos in 1-14-13 - cal size says 79k
- From: "Ken Clark" <ken@dieboldes.com>
- Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:24:46 -0500
- Importance: Normal
- In-Reply-To: <004301c03205$12ad33a0$0203a8c0@GES001>

See attached. Ken From: Tari Runyan [mailto:trglobal@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:25 AM To: Ken Clark Cc: Bugs Subject: no room for vot pos in 1-14-13 - cal size says 79k attached is db - I went to download absentee VC - gems says it is 79K in the calculate size button - so it should fit on a 128 k card - but it doesn't - get N o room for Votpos -- can you take a look and see if I set it up wrong or am not seeing something ? thank you Tari Runyan Global Election Systems, Inc trglobal@earthlink.net 303-428-5011 voice 303-428-5022 fax 303-520-0710 cell

> - To: <support@dieboldes.com>
> - Subject: RE: Size of Mem Card Data
> - From: "Ken Clark" <ken@dieboldes.com>
> - Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:00:09 -0500
> - Importance: Normal
> - In-Reply-To: <PPECJKNKLDJLKJPKPPIOEEDBCGAA.ken@dieboldes.com>
> Some closure on this. The amount of data for this memory card really is 70k, but the AccuVote is hitting that stone age 64k limit one one of its internal tables -- namely the voting position table. You can probably see something similar if you have enough precincts with few races/candidates. So, in short, you can't trust what calc size tells you under some esoteric circumstances. Call it a bug or limitation (myself the former), but it unfortunately can't be fixed without raising some AccuVote memory card compatibility issues.
> Ken

> > From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:04 AM
> > Then the answer to your question is "yes". Or more specifically, it is miscalculating.
> > Ken

> > > From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Mike Brown
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:11 AM
> > > No.

> > > > From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Ken Clark
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:58 AM

> > > > Does this VC fit on a 128k card?

> > > > > From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Mike Brown
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:06 AM
> > > > > Using the Calc Size option in the Vote Center Dialog, I found the size to be 70k for my download. Is this the actual size or is there more data placed on the card by GEMS for the AccuVote outside this number

> - To: <support@dieboldes.com>
> - Subject: RE: Size of Mem Card Data
> - From: "Ken Clark" <ken@dieboldes.com>
> - Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:14:13 -0500
> - Importance: Normal
> - In-Reply-To: <39BFC3AC.D577F2AD@dieboldes.com>

> > From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com]On Behalf Of Guy Lancaster
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:13 PM
> > Ken Clark wrote:

> > > Call it a bug or limitation (myself the former), but it unfortunately can't be fixed without raising some AccuVote memory card compatibility issues.

> > Can we adjust the calculator to at least predict this problem then?

> Well, if you insist. I would prefer to chalk this up as an AV bug though. :-) 1.17.4 will put a noncommital "big" as the memcard size when then voting position table is >64k.

> Would you believe Cobb's vpos table is 65910 bytes. They missed the mark by 374 bytes. It would probably fit with just one less card. Bad break.

> Ken

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